1 00:00:32,030 --> 00:00:21,830 [Music] 2 00:00:37,819 --> 00:00:35,670 in the darkness nothing is off-limits 3 00:00:40,799 --> 00:00:37,829 expand your perception of reality 4 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:40,809 welcome to black out with Samantha 5 00:00:48,869 --> 00:00:45,489 Scarlett Friday September 13th Friday 6 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:48,879 the 13th 2019 and this is black out with 7 00:00:53,490 --> 00:00:51,489 Samantha Scarlett that's me only on IB 8 00:00:55,289 --> 00:00:53,500 radio I'm broadcasting you guys alive 9 00:00:57,390 --> 00:00:55,299 for an undisclosed location way above 10 00:00:58,590 --> 00:00:57,400 the clouds in midtown Manhattan today on 11 00:01:00,630 --> 00:00:58,600 the show we're gonna be talking to Tim 12 00:01:03,210 --> 00:01:00,640 Beckley he's one of the hosts of the 13 00:01:05,130 --> 00:01:03,220 show exploring the bizarre on kake or 14 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:05,140 radio and I've been a guest on their 15 00:01:09,810 --> 00:01:07,810 show I think twice now so I thought I'd 16 00:01:11,550 --> 00:01:09,820 return the favor and have Tim Buckley on 17 00:01:13,499 --> 00:01:11,560 for this week and we're going to talk 18 00:01:14,969 --> 00:01:13,509 about all aspects of the paranormal so 19 00:01:16,230 --> 00:01:14,979 we're gonna go to a break and then when 20 00:01:19,999 --> 00:01:16,240 we get back we're gonna talk to you it's 21 00:01:26,819 --> 00:01:23,100 exploring the bazaar I hate mmm how are 22 00:01:29,399 --> 00:01:26,829 you good good hanging in there looking 23 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:29,409 forward to our conversation awesome 24 00:01:32,550 --> 00:01:31,090 so I guess cut off because I've been a 25 00:01:33,899 --> 00:01:32,560 guest on you and you're open you've 26 00:01:35,669 --> 00:01:33,909 never been against been a guest on so it 27 00:01:39,929 --> 00:01:35,679 was time to extend them the fair I think 28 00:01:41,309 --> 00:01:39,939 I've been on on and so now um how do you 29 00:01:43,980 --> 00:01:41,319 get involved incident to the paranoid 30 00:01:46,559 --> 00:01:43,990 what sparked the synthesis oh my 31 00:01:49,669 --> 00:01:46,569 goodness well you know Eko it goes way 32 00:01:59,339 --> 00:01:49,679 back I lived in a house that had 33 00:02:03,240 --> 00:01:59,349 poltergeist phenomena well I guess I was 34 00:02:05,399 --> 00:02:03,250 rather young at the time and we had all 35 00:02:08,969 --> 00:02:05,409 the phenomena you know doors opening and 36 00:02:12,860 --> 00:02:08,979 closing and lights going on and off and 37 00:02:15,690 --> 00:02:12,870 I remember on one occasion there was a 38 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:15,700 dish at China where on the kitchen table 39 00:02:22,920 --> 00:02:19,090 and it slid across the table and I can't 40 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:22,930 say that it floated to the floor but it 41 00:02:27,449 --> 00:02:24,850 it fell what would be that the 42 00:02:30,150 --> 00:02:27,459 equivalent of three feet or so without 43 00:02:34,620 --> 00:02:30,160 breaking and there's no reason really 44 00:02:36,569 --> 00:02:34,630 why it shouldn't have now what we could 45 00:02:38,670 --> 00:02:36,579 talk I guess we could discuss what 46 00:02:43,970 --> 00:02:38,680 exactly is a poltergeist but most people 47 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:43,980 think of it as a I guess a noisy 48 00:02:52,920 --> 00:02:49,090 mischievous or nasty ghost well that may 49 00:02:59,270 --> 00:02:52,930 or may not be the the the case but we 50 00:03:02,699 --> 00:02:59,280 did find out later on that a lady had 51 00:03:05,870 --> 00:03:02,709 given birth to a child and and but uh 52 00:03:09,300 --> 00:03:05,880 this would have been around maybe around 53 00:03:13,729 --> 00:03:09,310 1908 or 1910 or something and both of 54 00:03:16,770 --> 00:03:13,739 them had died from I believe it was the 55 00:03:19,470 --> 00:03:16,780 exterior at the time anyway it was 56 00:03:20,970 --> 00:03:19,480 killing a lot of people and they both 57 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:20,980 died around the same time and they were 58 00:03:30,140 --> 00:03:25,690 buried in the same coffin and later on 59 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:30,150 my I am godmother came to the visit and 60 00:03:38,940 --> 00:03:33,490 she had a an experience where 61 00:03:41,340 --> 00:03:38,950 she heard a baby crying between the the 62 00:03:44,970 --> 00:03:41,350 the door to our apartment and the door 63 00:03:47,340 --> 00:03:44,980 that to the apartment upstairs and she 64 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:47,350 opened the door and supposedly there was 65 00:03:54,090 --> 00:03:51,250 a woman holding a baby in her arms and 66 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:54,100 being a strict Catholic that she was she 67 00:04:02,000 --> 00:03:56,650 slammed the door and refused to go back 68 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:02,010 and investigate then I had a few 69 00:04:08,490 --> 00:04:04,930 out-of-body experiences where I found 70 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:08,500 myself floating above the floating above 71 00:04:13,530 --> 00:04:10,210 the bed and the room was filled with 72 00:04:16,170 --> 00:04:13,540 this color it was almost like a 73 00:04:20,490 --> 00:04:16,180 psychedelic experience with a variety of 74 00:04:23,010 --> 00:04:20,500 colors and sounds and things like yeah 75 00:04:25,770 --> 00:04:23,020 yeah and and that happened that a few 76 00:04:27,990 --> 00:04:25,780 times and I began to read up on the you 77 00:04:30,810 --> 00:04:28,000 know up on the the subject but I guess 78 00:04:34,230 --> 00:04:30,820 the big transformation would have come 79 00:04:38,870 --> 00:04:34,240 when I was about 10 years old it was a 80 00:04:49,050 --> 00:04:44,940 1957 and this is before there was air 81 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:49,060 conditioning so it was normal for people 82 00:04:54,660 --> 00:04:52,450 to set out on the front stoop until it 83 00:04:57,960 --> 00:04:54,670 cooled off a little and then you could 84 00:05:03,180 --> 00:04:57,970 go back inside anyway I was there with 85 00:05:07,230 --> 00:05:03,190 my mom and a couple of neighbors and 86 00:05:09,060 --> 00:05:07,240 someone came up and said that you look 87 00:05:12,180 --> 00:05:09,070 up into the sky there's something 88 00:05:15,530 --> 00:05:12,190 strange there and indeed sent me there 89 00:05:18,060 --> 00:05:15,540 there was there were two objects 90 00:05:20,670 --> 00:05:18,070 brightly lit now I can't tell you that I 91 00:05:23,010 --> 00:05:20,680 saw any landing here none of the little 92 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:23,020 men they wave to me through portholes or 93 00:05:28,590 --> 00:05:25,650 anything like that but there were two 94 00:05:32,850 --> 00:05:28,600 circular shaped lights just above the 95 00:05:36,900 --> 00:05:32,860 cloud covering and these objects I would 96 00:05:39,060 --> 00:05:36,910 say that they were oh maybe 30 40 feet 97 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:39,070 in in diameter today they were a pretty 98 00:05:44,850 --> 00:05:40,450 good size 99 00:05:46,210 --> 00:05:44,860 swung around and around in the sky there 100 00:05:48,790 --> 00:05:46,220 was a 101 00:05:51,670 --> 00:05:48,800 ended the factory building Lefkowitz 102 00:05:56,980 --> 00:05:51,680 leather across the street and one of 103 00:05:58,780 --> 00:05:56,990 them would position themselves above the 104 00:06:01,720 --> 00:05:58,790 building there and the other one would 105 00:06:05,590 --> 00:06:01,730 be closer to our house this is not 106 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:05,600 directly our said no this was in New 107 00:06:14,980 --> 00:06:10,090 Brunswick New Jersey okay it's all very 108 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:14,990 well it wasn't that congested at the 109 00:06:22,420 --> 00:06:19,250 time but not not like anything is today 110 00:06:25,630 --> 00:06:22,430 of course you know but anyway we watch 111 00:06:28,870 --> 00:06:25,640 these things for about oh I guess 15 112 00:06:32,020 --> 00:06:28,880 minutes or so and then the one across 113 00:06:35,230 --> 00:06:32,030 the street they kept maneuvering in the 114 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:35,240 sky the one across the street would come 115 00:06:39,580 --> 00:06:37,370 and hover over the the street in front 116 00:06:42,580 --> 00:06:39,590 of us and the one in front of us would 117 00:06:44,710 --> 00:06:42,590 go back over the end circular pattern so 118 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:44,720 this lasted for about maybe 15 minutes 119 00:06:49,210 --> 00:06:47,330 and then finally I can't say we got 120 00:06:54,580 --> 00:06:49,220 bored but it wasn't doing anything and 121 00:06:55,900 --> 00:06:54,590 and so we went inside the next day or 122 00:06:58,690 --> 00:06:55,910 the day after that there was a little 123 00:07:01,480 --> 00:06:58,700 item in the newspaper that other people 124 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:01,490 had witnesses but they were saying that 125 00:07:04,450 --> 00:07:03,410 it was nothing more unusual than a 126 00:07:13,150 --> 00:07:04,460 weather balloon 127 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:13,160 the planet Venus yeah it's got how many 128 00:07:20,020 --> 00:07:14,810 weather balloons have you ever seen in 129 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:20,030 your life zero I mean like unless you 130 00:07:24,250 --> 00:07:22,850 live near an airport or some weather 131 00:07:27,700 --> 00:07:24,260 bureau you're not going to see a weather 132 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:27,710 a balloon and it's for the planet Venus 133 00:07:32,620 --> 00:07:30,290 it was it planted Venus there's not two 134 00:07:35,590 --> 00:07:32,630 of them and they don't circle in the in 135 00:07:38,140 --> 00:07:35,600 the sky so even at the tender age of 10 136 00:07:42,159 --> 00:07:38,150 I realized that something rather unusual 137 00:07:46,390 --> 00:07:42,169 was going on so I started reading 138 00:07:48,430 --> 00:07:46,400 whatever I could on the on the subject I 139 00:07:50,050 --> 00:07:48,440 took out a couple of books and bought a 140 00:07:53,620 --> 00:07:50,060 couple of paperbacks in those days they 141 00:07:56,529 --> 00:07:53,630 were 35 cents you know and one of them 142 00:07:58,839 --> 00:07:56,539 was major Donald iki holds a book he 143 00:07:59,740 --> 00:07:58,849 wrote called flying saucers are from 144 00:08:03,700 --> 00:07:59,750 outer space 145 00:08:06,010 --> 00:08:03,710 and I was hooked I mean I just found it 146 00:08:09,550 --> 00:08:06,020 to be a fascinating subject and I i 147 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:09,560 gobbled up everything I could find and I 148 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:11,930 started actually putting on a newsletter 149 00:08:17,890 --> 00:08:15,890 when I was 14 or 15 years old I went out 150 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:17,900 and bought a little mimeograph machine 151 00:08:24,700 --> 00:08:20,930 you know and and it started out with 10 152 00:08:27,130 --> 00:08:24,710 pages and by time I called it quits it 153 00:08:31,330 --> 00:08:27,140 was up to 40 pages and had a circulation 154 00:08:33,700 --> 00:08:31,340 of about 1,500 and those things you had 155 00:08:36,190 --> 00:08:33,710 a you know kool-aid and staple them and 156 00:08:39,790 --> 00:08:36,200 do the homework yourself because there 157 00:08:42,820 --> 00:08:39,800 was no you know a Kinkos or quick-quick 158 00:08:45,790 --> 00:08:42,830 copy so it was it was quite it was quite 159 00:08:47,590 --> 00:08:45,800 a task while other teenagers were we're 160 00:08:50,070 --> 00:08:47,600 out fooling around and having fun and 161 00:08:52,300 --> 00:08:50,080 well nobody smoked pot those days I 162 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:52,310 don't even know if anybody grabbed a 163 00:08:57,910 --> 00:08:54,530 beer come the cup of think of it that's 164 00:09:01,750 --> 00:08:57,920 how that's how ancient all this was I 165 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:01,760 guess I became hooked on on UFOs and I 166 00:09:06,430 --> 00:09:04,130 followed the subject and and I've made 167 00:09:08,620 --> 00:09:06,440 one of the few people I could actually 168 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:08,630 say made a career out of this although 169 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:10,850 I've done a lot of different things from 170 00:09:17,530 --> 00:09:14,450 being a rock and roll promoter to making 171 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:17,540 it horror films and I I can't think of 172 00:09:21,610 --> 00:09:19,490 partly anything that I haven't done 173 00:09:23,350 --> 00:09:21,620 outside of robbing a bank and since you 174 00:09:24,579 --> 00:09:23,360 and I are gonna do that and since you 175 00:09:30,910 --> 00:09:24,589 and I are gonna do that this afternoon 176 00:09:32,829 --> 00:09:30,920 then there'll be nothing new back to the 177 00:09:34,630 --> 00:09:32,839 whole thing with the poultry were there 178 00:09:37,510 --> 00:09:34,640 any any young females living in the 179 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:37,520 household because I heard every searched 180 00:09:44,050 --> 00:09:40,250 but a lot of people chose phenomenon 181 00:09:45,490 --> 00:09:44,060 isn't innocent with change girls well 182 00:09:46,750 --> 00:09:45,500 you know come to think of it I did have 183 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:46,760 a sister 184 00:09:50,680 --> 00:09:48,410 let me see she would have been eight 185 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:50,690 years older than I was 186 00:09:58,270 --> 00:09:54,130 let's see so that seven eight nine ten 187 00:10:00,540 --> 00:09:58,280 yeah I guess she yeah okay you know I 188 00:10:03,850 --> 00:10:00,550 know I do yeah I can't even think of her 189 00:10:07,570 --> 00:10:03,860 as being there but I get yeah she was 190 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:07,580 eight years old and I was but I you know 191 00:10:12,940 --> 00:10:10,250 I don't know if you could this is well 192 00:10:18,940 --> 00:10:12,950 that's the beige 193 00:10:21,250 --> 00:10:18,950 yeah yeah you know I marry a woman 194 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:21,260 holding in the doorway I haven't thought 195 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:22,490 seen a poltergeist 196 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:25,970 that's full-time I'm getting I'm getting 197 00:10:40,630 --> 00:10:27,770 I'm getting some terrible feedback here 198 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:40,640 oh you you are Oh feedback yes yeah 199 00:10:45,670 --> 00:10:42,770 anyway there you know like I say there 200 00:10:48,670 --> 00:10:45,680 was um my sister was living in the house 201 00:10:52,270 --> 00:10:48,680 but we did have we were able to track it 202 00:10:56,050 --> 00:10:52,280 back to this woman who apparently had 203 00:10:58,390 --> 00:10:56,060 given birth they have been sorry if her 204 00:10:59,800 --> 00:10:58,400 actual apparition and I would call her 205 00:11:02,740 --> 00:10:59,810 the poltergeist I would I would chop 206 00:11:06,580 --> 00:11:02,750 that up yeah because polar is not a 207 00:11:08,830 --> 00:11:06,590 specific entity yeah well but but again 208 00:11:11,890 --> 00:11:08,840 there were there were like I say lights 209 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:11,900 and lights going on and off and the 210 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:14,810 doors opening in and and closing but 211 00:11:20,590 --> 00:11:17,330 anyway the the main option of all of 212 00:11:24,420 --> 00:11:20,600 this is as I was kind of drawn to the 213 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:24,430 paranormal in a of a very early age and 214 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:27,410 it's never left me it's it's something 215 00:11:34,750 --> 00:11:30,890 that's you know fascinated me all these 216 00:11:37,450 --> 00:11:34,760 years and even at this rather young age 217 00:11:40,470 --> 00:11:37,460 of 15 you know I began writing letters 218 00:11:44,140 --> 00:11:40,480 to the to the newspapers in the area 219 00:11:46,810 --> 00:11:44,150 asking people to send me their their 220 00:11:49,300 --> 00:11:46,820 sightings and things like that and some 221 00:11:52,030 --> 00:11:49,310 of the local media like the rate there 222 00:11:55,270 --> 00:11:52,040 was no local TV but the certainly no 223 00:11:58,600 --> 00:11:55,280 internet but a radio stations started 224 00:12:00,370 --> 00:11:58,610 calling me and invite you know I would 225 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:00,380 go to the stations in those things I 226 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:02,770 mean was done in the studio not over the 227 00:12:09,700 --> 00:12:07,490 there is a phone yeah yeah and and they 228 00:12:12,790 --> 00:12:09,710 were surprised that I was you know was 229 00:12:14,650 --> 00:12:12,800 so young I guess they figured they were 230 00:12:18,310 --> 00:12:14,660 and some adult was coming and then here 231 00:12:20,470 --> 00:12:18,320 I was a you know the teenager 232 00:12:23,680 --> 00:12:20,480 yeah and then I then I started that I 233 00:12:25,519 --> 00:12:23,690 started coming into the city from New 234 00:12:27,829 --> 00:12:25,529 York I 235 00:12:31,429 --> 00:12:27,839 merge my little publication the 236 00:12:33,829 --> 00:12:31,439 interplanetary news service report with 237 00:12:38,739 --> 00:12:33,839 a larger magazine called saucer news and 238 00:12:44,569 --> 00:12:42,559 managing editor and it was a bigger 239 00:12:46,639 --> 00:12:44,579 magazine it was sold on a noose and then 240 00:12:51,829 --> 00:12:46,649 and then I became a stringer for The 241 00:12:53,509 --> 00:12:51,839 Enquirer and the globe and yeah and and 242 00:12:55,670 --> 00:12:53,519 I you know I met a lot of celebrities in 243 00:12:58,160 --> 00:12:55,680 fact I've done a couple of books on 244 00:13:01,129 --> 00:12:58,170 celebrities and their UFO sightings and 245 00:13:06,199 --> 00:13:01,139 paranormal experiences and things along 246 00:13:08,059 --> 00:13:06,209 that line yep how many men you give us 247 00:13:13,879 --> 00:13:08,069 didn't you covered all over the entire 248 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:13,889 room they were true oh you know this is 249 00:13:19,090 --> 00:13:15,689 something that most people don't realize 250 00:13:24,019 --> 00:13:19,100 at least in the case of the The Inquirer 251 00:13:27,889 --> 00:13:24,029 they required very strict verification I 252 00:13:32,059 --> 00:13:27,899 would I would have to it's not the same 253 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:32,069 publisher as today is and then at those 254 00:13:38,090 --> 00:13:34,850 days it was a it was a pretty serious 255 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:38,100 publication and sure they got sued every 256 00:13:42,079 --> 00:13:40,410 once in a while because something would 257 00:13:45,319 --> 00:13:42,089 you know slip through the gate and the 258 00:13:49,639 --> 00:13:45,329 cracks as they say occasionally but they 259 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:49,649 would require a pretty much verification 260 00:13:54,139 --> 00:13:52,410 I'd have to provide them with a tapes of 261 00:13:56,540 --> 00:13:54,149 the conversations that I had with these 262 00:13:59,240 --> 00:13:56,550 celebrities and all and they had they 263 00:14:08,470 --> 00:13:59,250 had fact-checkers I be can you believe 264 00:14:21,769 --> 00:14:15,499 yeah and in fact there was a singer by 265 00:14:25,220 --> 00:14:21,779 the name of memory senior senior moment 266 00:14:28,790 --> 00:14:25,230 anyway there was a singer who told me 267 00:14:33,559 --> 00:14:28,800 his story about having a UFO experience 268 00:14:35,540 --> 00:14:33,569 in Central Park while he was walking his 269 00:14:39,470 --> 00:14:35,550 dog in fact there were a lot of people 270 00:14:41,509 --> 00:14:39,480 that had a UFO sightings in Central Park 271 00:14:46,340 --> 00:14:41,519 Mohammed Ali I actually jogged with him 272 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:46,350 one morning is he related his experience 273 00:14:51,009 --> 00:14:48,930 about seeing these two objects that look 274 00:14:53,870 --> 00:14:51,019 like giant lightbulbs hovering behind an 275 00:14:56,449 --> 00:14:53,880 apartment building there but this other 276 00:14:59,480 --> 00:14:56,459 singer told me about how he was out 277 00:15:01,460 --> 00:14:59,490 walking his dog in this UFO came over I 278 00:15:05,210 --> 00:15:01,470 guess pretty much the treatment level 279 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:05,220 and you know I had it published it was 280 00:15:10,370 --> 00:15:06,690 published in The Enquirer in years later 281 00:15:12,889 --> 00:15:10,380 I I met his son who was a documentary 282 00:15:16,490 --> 00:15:12,899 filmmaker and had done some things with 283 00:15:19,610 --> 00:15:16,500 Budd Hopkins on UFOs and I said you know 284 00:15:21,439 --> 00:15:19,620 I I met your dad and I wrote this 285 00:15:23,769 --> 00:15:21,449 article about him and he said yeah my 286 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:23,779 father said that was the most accurate 287 00:15:28,910 --> 00:15:26,490 story you know quote wise said I was 288 00:15:32,540 --> 00:15:28,920 that was ever printed about him and that 289 00:15:36,740 --> 00:15:32,550 was in that was in the The Enquirer oh 290 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:36,750 it was Mel Torme I mean I got to yeah 291 00:15:41,810 --> 00:15:39,570 yeah but he was known as The Velvet fog 292 00:15:45,259 --> 00:15:41,820 I guess that was this kind of the deep 293 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:45,269 sound of his voice and his son was Tracy 294 00:15:51,439 --> 00:15:50,490 Torme who made the movie on Travis 295 00:15:54,860 --> 00:15:51,449 Walton Oh 296 00:15:58,460 --> 00:15:54,870 fire fire night you fired the sky yeah 297 00:16:01,790 --> 00:15:58,470 see so my memory is my memory is is is 298 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:01,800 clear but so I had I had quite a career 299 00:16:07,879 --> 00:16:05,610 I I enjoyed doing that and then I worked 300 00:16:10,100 --> 00:16:07,889 for a lot of the rock and roll magazine 301 00:16:11,620 --> 00:16:10,110 so I hung out backstage and partied with 302 00:16:14,540 --> 00:16:11,630 some of the best damn bands in the world 303 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:14,550 in fact I just got the sad news that one 304 00:16:19,189 --> 00:16:15,930 of my favorite artists Eddie Money 305 00:16:22,250 --> 00:16:19,199 passed away you know to take two tickets 306 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:22,260 to paradise and I want to go back and I 307 00:16:27,079 --> 00:16:24,810 he just started you know a TV show with 308 00:16:29,780 --> 00:16:27,089 his family they have their own rock band 309 00:16:32,210 --> 00:16:29,790 his two sons of his daughter and and all 310 00:16:34,389 --> 00:16:32,220 her started to you know continue to ban 311 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:34,399 going and he's quite quite a character 312 00:16:40,490 --> 00:16:37,050 he wasn't that old I don't you know I I 313 00:16:46,210 --> 00:16:40,500 haven't really got me yeah yeah well 314 00:16:52,810 --> 00:16:50,439 yeah well that was anyway so that's a 315 00:16:55,780 --> 00:16:52,820 kind of my career in a 316 00:16:58,840 --> 00:16:55,790 in a nutshell and I I still continue to 317 00:17:02,020 --> 00:16:58,850 do this I I have my exploring the bazaar 318 00:17:05,290 --> 00:17:02,030 show that I co-hosts every Thursday 319 00:17:06,970 --> 00:17:05,300 night with Tim mush warts he's my 320 00:17:09,819 --> 00:17:06,980 partner in crime 321 00:17:12,130 --> 00:17:09,829 and I think we're up to over 400 shows 322 00:17:13,870 --> 00:17:12,140 but you've been doing your puck you've 323 00:17:25,420 --> 00:17:13,880 been doing your podcast for a while too 324 00:17:27,910 --> 00:17:25,430 right yeah sorry I taste showing my 325 00:17:33,550 --> 00:17:27,920 apartment and even you or my dogs really 326 00:17:36,610 --> 00:17:33,560 bad but I think up to about 85 86 or 6s 327 00:17:39,670 --> 00:17:36,620 of the show and then previous was on ID 328 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:39,680 okay Jason Krrish Krrish did right 329 00:17:43,390 --> 00:17:41,810 around 30 episode 4 that I previously 330 00:17:45,610 --> 00:17:43,400 didn't have another show where I did 331 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:45,620 head up and so I mean I mean over a 332 00:17:58,450 --> 00:17:56,470 I'm in the process this is accreting I 333 00:18:01,270 --> 00:17:58,460 actually have not been been personally 334 00:18:08,830 --> 00:18:01,280 skyscape much lately I am creating a 335 00:18:12,550 --> 00:18:08,840 sniffs keyword company yes yes 336 00:18:20,070 --> 00:18:12,560 last week's like allows formation thank 337 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:20,080 you I follow I follow you on facebook 338 00:18:31,180 --> 00:18:22,730 because I always look forward to your 339 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:31,190 next fashion statement crazy amount of 340 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:34,010 time to take to do that I'm just gonna 341 00:18:39,430 --> 00:18:35,690 walk on it yeah everyone thinks I'm some 342 00:18:43,110 --> 00:18:39,440 always super action you've not been left 343 00:18:46,540 --> 00:18:43,120 more this summer in skateboarded but uh 344 00:18:48,550 --> 00:18:46,550 no interesting to meet me when talking 345 00:18:50,140 --> 00:18:48,560 about it's people like Jackie Muhammad 346 00:18:53,710 --> 00:18:50,150 Ali it in central central opinion yeah 347 00:18:56,380 --> 00:18:53,720 and Mel Torme you know New York City you 348 00:18:59,080 --> 00:18:56,390 do you think this was not least of UFO 349 00:19:01,300 --> 00:18:59,090 sites I did but there are a lot of UFO 350 00:19:03,010 --> 00:19:01,310 sightings Harriet you're in your New 351 00:19:03,930 --> 00:19:03,020 York's which I'm really upset still have 352 00:19:05,970 --> 00:19:03,940 yet to see you 353 00:19:08,010 --> 00:19:05,980 I feel I would be able to see them from 354 00:19:12,180 --> 00:19:08,020 where I live I could set up a GoPro or 355 00:19:15,450 --> 00:19:12,190 something yeah well you know actually 356 00:19:20,430 --> 00:19:15,460 there was one sighting and I don't 357 00:19:22,529 --> 00:19:20,440 remember the the year but the Gulf and 358 00:19:24,750 --> 00:19:22,539 Western building right off the Central 359 00:19:27,900 --> 00:19:24,760 Park it's not there anymore in fact I 360 00:19:31,289 --> 00:19:27,910 think it's one of trumps buildings there 361 00:19:35,159 --> 00:19:31,299 was a restaurant up on top maybe 50 362 00:19:39,390 --> 00:19:35,169 floors up and there was one particular 363 00:19:41,820 --> 00:19:39,400 evening where apparently 60 people had a 364 00:19:44,610 --> 00:19:41,830 sighting of something that came over 365 00:19:46,620 --> 00:19:44,620 well it looked directly over Central 366 00:19:48,990 --> 00:19:46,630 Park you're beautiful you you know 367 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:49,000 beautiful you any of those hotels up in 368 00:19:54,690 --> 00:19:51,250 that area 369 00:19:58,289 --> 00:19:54,700 in fact I once went to a a party that 370 00:20:00,779 --> 00:19:58,299 George Harrison held for Ravi Shankar 371 00:20:05,460 --> 00:20:00,789 and it's the first time it was in the I 372 00:20:08,370 --> 00:20:05,470 think the car - Carlton which was run 373 00:20:10,980 --> 00:20:08,380 off of there's a Carlton tonight 374 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:10,990 I think the Carlton I you know it's been 375 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:13,450 it's many many years ago but it was the 376 00:20:19,289 --> 00:20:16,690 first time that I had Indian food and 377 00:20:22,590 --> 00:20:19,299 where China which I at yeah which I 378 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:22,600 absolutely love you know but I can't 379 00:20:26,909 --> 00:20:24,610 remember much about the party because 380 00:20:30,270 --> 00:20:26,919 it's so long ago but I remember in the 381 00:20:35,580 --> 00:20:30,280 restrooms there were these tapestries of 382 00:20:39,930 --> 00:20:35,590 the Kama Sutra oh my god which did shows 383 00:20:43,950 --> 00:20:39,940 you that my mind is not on UFOs all the 384 00:20:49,770 --> 00:20:43,960 time but you know John Lennon had a very 385 00:20:51,539 --> 00:20:49,780 famous sighting Jakara yeah he was well 386 00:20:56,460 --> 00:20:51,549 I got this right from the horse's mouth 387 00:20:59,730 --> 00:20:56,470 he was dating am a pang at the at the 388 00:21:01,950 --> 00:20:59,740 time and they were standing I I believe 389 00:21:06,210 --> 00:21:01,960 she said naked on the balcony and she 390 00:21:08,909 --> 00:21:06,220 had come in to get a delivery of a pizza 391 00:21:12,360 --> 00:21:08,919 or something like that and he he yelled 392 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:12,370 at her to come back out and there was 393 00:21:16,590 --> 00:21:14,770 this UFO that he said that he saw and it 394 00:21:17,620 --> 00:21:16,600 was coming directly you know towards 395 00:21:20,710 --> 00:21:17,630 them 396 00:21:23,410 --> 00:21:20,720 and he reported he actually called the 397 00:21:26,290 --> 00:21:23,420 newspaper he called the Daily News 398 00:21:31,300 --> 00:21:26,300 report what he had seen and he called 399 00:21:35,290 --> 00:21:31,310 the tower or somebody at the Newark 400 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:35,300 Airport but you know most of these 401 00:21:42,580 --> 00:21:38,450 things I kind of think just kind of slip 402 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:42,590 through the the cracks because people if 403 00:21:47,020 --> 00:21:44,930 they have these sightings they don't 404 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:47,030 they don't report them because they 405 00:21:52,620 --> 00:21:49,250 don't think that anybody will believe 406 00:21:55,930 --> 00:21:52,630 them or or even if they report them 407 00:22:01,150 --> 00:21:55,940 there's no there's no media very little 408 00:22:06,250 --> 00:22:01,160 media coverage I've heard the job online 409 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:06,260 before and that's not even even like if 410 00:22:09,850 --> 00:22:07,970 you're not not for me or never been here 411 00:22:12,970 --> 00:22:09,860 you'd think oh well he would was up 412 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:12,980 really high and UFO but the Dakotas is 413 00:22:16,090 --> 00:22:14,690 not your standard this is not a very 414 00:22:18,430 --> 00:22:16,100 tall building I think I believed like 415 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:18,440 six or seven strim stories which can 416 00:22:22,620 --> 00:22:20,090 prepare Terry I mean like I live I live 417 00:22:25,060 --> 00:22:22,630 on 44th floor I could be less 418 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:25,070 fantastical if there was some kind of 419 00:22:30,220 --> 00:22:27,050 craft see if I saw an aircraft hovering 420 00:22:32,290 --> 00:22:30,230 at an outside of mundo then someone 1/7 421 00:22:35,380 --> 00:22:32,300 off the more high Central Park or the 422 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:35,390 tree frags on vitamins is higher if I 423 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:37,490 were piloting a UFO I'd come right 424 00:22:46,360 --> 00:22:41,650 outside your window and yell at you but 425 00:22:49,930 --> 00:22:46,370 there was a case that steward Whitman 426 00:22:57,310 --> 00:22:49,940 who is I still believe alive maybe in 427 00:23:00,310 --> 00:22:57,320 his 90s he was a an actor the only movie 428 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:00,320 that I can think that he was in is the 429 00:23:03,970 --> 00:23:02,930 sound and the fury which I couldn't even 430 00:23:06,190 --> 00:23:03,980 tell you what it was about 431 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:06,200 maybe it was a war maybe it was a war 432 00:23:11,020 --> 00:23:09,050 story I'm sure some of the lists well 433 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:11,030 you've probably got young listeners so 434 00:23:16,120 --> 00:23:15,170 I'm not sure either but anyway he had 435 00:23:18,910 --> 00:23:16,130 come to New York 436 00:23:20,970 --> 00:23:18,920 I guess the promote of film and he was 437 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:20,980 staying in one of the hotels along a 438 00:23:30,460 --> 00:23:24,050 Central Park and this is the night of 439 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:30,470 the big blackout in 1965 he woke up he 440 00:23:33,879 --> 00:23:31,730 woke up 441 00:23:35,620 --> 00:23:33,889 in the the middle of the night and I 442 00:23:38,379 --> 00:23:35,630 guess he went to look at the you know 443 00:23:40,779 --> 00:23:38,389 the clock that's uh next to the the bed 444 00:23:45,220 --> 00:23:40,789 that's lit up and there was there was 445 00:23:47,169 --> 00:23:45,230 nothing lit up mm-hmm and and so he he 446 00:23:50,049 --> 00:23:47,179 anyway he pulled the curtains aside in 447 00:23:55,180 --> 00:23:50,059 his room and he saw that it was pitch 448 00:23:57,549 --> 00:23:55,190 black outside so then he then apparently 449 00:24:00,029 --> 00:23:57,559 an object approached or was hovering in 450 00:24:04,419 --> 00:24:00,039 there and they spoke to him 451 00:24:08,950 --> 00:24:04,429 telepathically and this is this is a 452 00:24:12,310 --> 00:24:08,960 very strange incident I mean I consider 453 00:24:15,850 --> 00:24:12,320 this you know highly reliable now a lot 454 00:24:17,799 --> 00:24:15,860 of actors will maybe not a lot but some 455 00:24:19,990 --> 00:24:17,809 actors will try to pull the wool over 456 00:24:21,700 --> 00:24:20,000 your eye like you're William Shatner who 457 00:24:24,490 --> 00:24:21,710 I interviewed years ago and he told me 458 00:24:26,470 --> 00:24:24,500 the story about having a UFO experience 459 00:24:29,049 --> 00:24:26,480 and the men in black are following em 460 00:24:31,509 --> 00:24:29,059 what while he was on his motorcycle and 461 00:24:34,539 --> 00:24:31,519 then he said years later oh-ho-ho he 462 00:24:36,580 --> 00:24:34,549 fooled that guy from the Enquirer well I 463 00:24:38,590 --> 00:24:36,590 didn't make him take a lie-detector test 464 00:24:41,470 --> 00:24:38,600 it was a celebrity yet piece not a 465 00:24:43,360 --> 00:24:41,480 scientific report but in the case of 466 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:43,370 Stuart Whitman there just wasn't any 467 00:24:48,460 --> 00:24:46,250 reason for him well first of all to make 468 00:24:52,360 --> 00:24:48,470 up the story and he wasn't a Bill 469 00:24:54,580 --> 00:24:52,370 Shatner and and second of all I don't 470 00:24:56,620 --> 00:24:54,590 think that most people realize that 471 00:24:59,529 --> 00:24:56,630 there was a connection between blackouts 472 00:25:02,799 --> 00:24:59,539 and UFOs anyway this the voice inside 473 00:25:06,159 --> 00:25:02,809 the object told him that they were 474 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:06,169 responsible for the blackout and they 475 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:08,450 were very worried worried about our use 476 00:25:17,110 --> 00:25:14,210 of atomic and nuclear energy because not 477 00:25:21,340 --> 00:25:17,120 only could we destroy ourselves but we 478 00:25:28,289 --> 00:25:21,350 might inadvertently harm their 479 00:25:34,779 --> 00:25:32,169 like you know people who like the 2003 480 00:25:36,639 --> 00:25:34,789 it was 2,000 3,000 so they're really big 481 00:25:39,100 --> 00:25:36,649 in black a whole East Coast Coast that 482 00:25:41,420 --> 00:25:39,110 that was caused by yeah 483 00:25:43,340 --> 00:25:41,430 well there have been there there have 484 00:25:47,470 --> 00:25:43,350 been a lot of blackouts especially in 485 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:47,480 South America that have apparently 486 00:25:56,150 --> 00:25:51,810 tie-ins with the UFO sightings you know 487 00:25:58,430 --> 00:25:56,160 we have everything here from local life 488 00:26:01,190 --> 00:25:58,440 power fair people people have been 489 00:26:03,950 --> 00:26:01,200 driving along the highway and and their 490 00:26:06,890 --> 00:26:03,960 cars would stall after UFO came down 491 00:26:10,100 --> 00:26:06,900 very lower or land at near them it's 492 00:26:15,770 --> 00:26:10,110 known as the electromagnetic effect but 493 00:26:17,780 --> 00:26:15,780 apparently the these visitors the others 494 00:26:19,850 --> 00:26:17,790 whatever you want to call them III don't 495 00:26:23,210 --> 00:26:19,860 call them aliens because that has a bad 496 00:26:25,370 --> 00:26:23,220 kind of today and some people get to 497 00:26:28,220 --> 00:26:25,380 confuse what kind of aliens were we're 498 00:26:31,010 --> 00:26:28,230 speaking it to but can you imagine we 499 00:26:33,500 --> 00:26:31,020 want to put up a border to keep out you 500 00:26:35,030 --> 00:26:33,510 know people from other countries why in 501 00:26:36,890 --> 00:26:35,040 god's name when people say well why 502 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:36,900 don't they land on the White House House 503 00:26:41,450 --> 00:26:38,850 lawn that would probably be the last 504 00:26:45,370 --> 00:26:41,460 place you would want to to to land I 505 00:26:48,980 --> 00:26:45,380 mean where is really a neutral territory 506 00:26:53,090 --> 00:26:48,990 and of course some of these guys may not 507 00:26:57,590 --> 00:26:53,100 be so good after all in fact you know 508 00:27:06,880 --> 00:26:57,600 this coming week we have what was 509 00:27:12,710 --> 00:27:10,550 yes well okay well now there's been some 510 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:12,720 confusion about this we just came out 511 00:27:22,430 --> 00:27:16,770 with a book called area 51 warning it 512 00:27:24,590 --> 00:27:22,440 keep out I was up at area 51 or maybe 20 513 00:27:28,730 --> 00:27:24,600 years ago in fact we had a little mini 514 00:27:31,670 --> 00:27:28,740 convention there at the little alien in 515 00:27:33,620 --> 00:27:31,680 we had about 150 people showed up to 516 00:27:36,350 --> 00:27:33,630 here bill Cooper who was a very 517 00:27:40,250 --> 00:27:36,360 controversial figure spoke about the 518 00:27:42,590 --> 00:27:40,260 Kennedy assassination and secret trade 519 00:27:46,850 --> 00:27:42,600 agreement with extraterrestrials and and 520 00:27:48,770 --> 00:27:46,860 so forth and we had our sky watch we 521 00:27:52,910 --> 00:27:48,780 didn't really see anything too unusual 522 00:27:57,110 --> 00:27:52,920 and we were even harassed by the 523 00:27:59,480 --> 00:27:57,120 in county police we were on the TV you 524 00:28:01,160 --> 00:27:59,490 know like I'm the new news and they 525 00:28:03,290 --> 00:28:01,170 interviewed the the sheriff and he said 526 00:28:04,970 --> 00:28:03,300 well we don't mind and people coming out 527 00:28:07,220 --> 00:28:04,980 here we liked it towards but yet they 528 00:28:08,690 --> 00:28:07,230 harass you they follow you when you come 529 00:28:12,110 --> 00:28:08,700 out of the parking lot and a little 530 00:28:14,450 --> 00:28:12,120 alien in my god I I swerved on the 531 00:28:16,310 --> 00:28:14,460 highway now mind you this is at one 532 00:28:18,620 --> 00:28:16,320 o'clock in the morning I swear down the 533 00:28:21,830 --> 00:28:18,630 highway to avoid hitting a rabbit that 534 00:28:24,220 --> 00:28:21,840 was crossing the the road I've got too 535 00:28:26,990 --> 00:28:24,230 much into roadkill these days you know 536 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:27,000 and so I went a little bit over the like 537 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:29,490 now mind you there isn't a damn person 538 00:28:35,180 --> 00:28:33,450 within 50 miles of here but me yeah yeah 539 00:28:37,940 --> 00:28:35,190 yeah the cop car was right up my 540 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:37,950 backside and he you know he pulled me 541 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:40,290 over I do little honey's in the car with 542 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:44,250 me and you know he made me walk the line 543 00:28:48,230 --> 00:28:46,290 and say the alphabet backwards and 544 00:28:51,350 --> 00:28:48,240 repeat the star-spangled banner' on the 545 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:51,360 hood of the car and all that nonsense 546 00:28:58,810 --> 00:28:55,290 and you know I was quite perturbed about 547 00:29:02,390 --> 00:28:58,820 that then and I'd like to stop a senior 548 00:29:05,390 --> 00:29:02,400 citizens anyway I guess they're they're 549 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:05,400 easily a frightened some of them of 550 00:29:12,410 --> 00:29:08,730 course you never know ere ever that part 551 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:12,420 of the country usually has the open open 552 00:29:17,780 --> 00:29:16,530 gun you know law so I if people people 553 00:29:22,130 --> 00:29:17,790 are people are packing 554 00:29:24,290 --> 00:29:22,140 I would I would guess you know but there 555 00:29:25,730 --> 00:29:24,300 been sightings out there you know and 556 00:29:32,690 --> 00:29:25,740 and there are some people who claim that 557 00:29:34,570 --> 00:29:32,700 the bodies of the ETS that might have 558 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:34,580 crashed and died in Roswell they were 559 00:29:38,900 --> 00:29:37,050 stored there I don't know if they'd 560 00:29:41,450 --> 00:29:38,910 still be stored near if they were taken 561 00:29:45,740 --> 00:29:41,460 there because that's but back in the 19 562 00:29:49,490 --> 00:29:45,750 late 1940s but people were seeing things 563 00:29:51,710 --> 00:29:49,500 from off the highway you know strange 564 00:29:54,070 --> 00:29:51,720 craft in the sky disc shaped and ball 565 00:29:56,330 --> 00:29:54,080 shaped and and things that sputtered and 566 00:29:58,670 --> 00:29:56,340 stopped in and and seem to be 567 00:30:01,030 --> 00:29:58,680 teleporting itself because it would be 568 00:30:05,260 --> 00:30:01,040 in one portion of the sky one moment and 569 00:30:07,060 --> 00:30:05,270 instantaneously somewhere else 570 00:30:09,010 --> 00:30:07,070 and then there was a gentleman by the 571 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:09,020 name of Bob Lazar who claimed forward 572 00:30:13,690 --> 00:30:10,850 that came forward who claimed that he 573 00:30:15,220 --> 00:30:13,700 had actually worked there and that one 574 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:15,230 of the things he had worked on were 575 00:30:22,590 --> 00:30:19,730 these of alien craft from other worlds 576 00:30:25,180 --> 00:30:22,600 now supposedly also too they have 577 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:25,190 reconstructed some of these devices 578 00:30:34,860 --> 00:30:31,370 using back technology and so now the the 579 00:30:38,770 --> 00:30:34,870 US and probably other countries have 580 00:30:40,330 --> 00:30:38,780 UFOs of their own so that causes a bit 581 00:30:42,250 --> 00:30:40,340 of confusion when you look up into the 582 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:42,260 sky and you see something glowing and 583 00:30:47,170 --> 00:30:44,210 and coming toward you you don't know 584 00:30:53,770 --> 00:30:47,180 whether it's from out there or from in 585 00:30:56,860 --> 00:30:53,780 here yeah now I'm curious what do you 586 00:30:58,450 --> 00:30:56,870 think about the whole thing then shortly 587 00:31:01,690 --> 00:30:58,460 after I spoke to you last 588 00:31:04,870 --> 00:31:01,700 back in December right before New Year 589 00:31:07,930 --> 00:31:04,880 there was that thing in Queens and swear 590 00:31:10,090 --> 00:31:07,940 the sky lit up blue and they ain't 591 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:10,100 saying a cone at an attic ocean but I 592 00:31:15,100 --> 00:31:12,290 feel like people believe other otherwise 593 00:31:17,910 --> 00:31:15,110 your take on that and then yeah you know 594 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:17,920 Jesus I don't know as if I haven't take 595 00:31:23,890 --> 00:31:21,290 on that I I didn't talk to any of the 596 00:31:27,010 --> 00:31:23,900 you know the the witnesses or anything 597 00:31:29,650 --> 00:31:27,020 like that it could have been a natural 598 00:31:33,730 --> 00:31:29,660 phenomenon of some type now they even 599 00:31:36,910 --> 00:31:33,740 have photographs in the video that have 600 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:36,920 been taken from saddle you know 601 00:31:44,230 --> 00:31:39,290 satellites and and planes flying at high 602 00:31:47,460 --> 00:31:44,240 altitude that show these emissions blue 603 00:31:51,010 --> 00:31:47,470 lights and and I think some of them are 604 00:31:54,820 --> 00:31:51,020 maybe a yellow coming up off of the 605 00:31:58,780 --> 00:31:54,830 surface of the the planet I believe they 606 00:32:02,830 --> 00:31:58,790 have termed them sprites and and this is 607 00:32:08,260 --> 00:32:02,840 an unexplained phenomena sometimes the 608 00:32:10,450 --> 00:32:08,270 sky does light up supernaturally I don't 609 00:32:13,750 --> 00:32:10,460 know what you would would call it but 610 00:32:16,300 --> 00:32:13,760 they try to say oh it's the aurora 611 00:32:19,390 --> 00:32:16,310 borealis well the I don't think their 612 00:32:23,470 --> 00:32:19,400 aura borealis has been seen 613 00:32:25,150 --> 00:32:23,480 in recent years in Queens I mean I can't 614 00:32:28,900 --> 00:32:25,160 even see the stars in New York City at 615 00:32:32,530 --> 00:32:28,910 ease no well well you've got to go up 616 00:32:37,590 --> 00:32:32,540 you've got to go up to Pine Bush which 617 00:32:40,870 --> 00:32:39,460 it's with Queens 618 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:40,880 I believe you're fast in the city limits 619 00:32:47,260 --> 00:32:45,050 doesn't you can't cncn yeah I I wouldn't 620 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:47,270 I wouldn't I wouldn't think so but like 621 00:32:51,100 --> 00:32:49,250 you say there there have been a heck of 622 00:32:54,100 --> 00:32:51,110 a lot of UFO yeah 623 00:32:58,240 --> 00:32:54,110 sightings over the the city a year but 624 00:33:02,020 --> 00:32:58,250 that's the case in most figure in most 625 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:02,030 big communities I a one time the some 626 00:33:07,060 --> 00:33:05,090 editor dared me to prove there you know 627 00:33:11,230 --> 00:33:07,070 because they always say on the media oh 628 00:33:14,710 --> 00:33:11,240 it's some you know redneck or or some 629 00:33:17,260 --> 00:33:14,720 farmer in the the middle of Iowa who 630 00:33:20,980 --> 00:33:17,270 sees these things but that's not true at 631 00:33:23,050 --> 00:33:20,990 all in fact yeah I got you off my 632 00:33:26,710 --> 00:33:23,060 wonderful son shark sightings is if it 633 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:26,720 be due to the product property Oh Times 634 00:33:33,220 --> 00:33:29,690 Square because I believe can see Times 635 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:33,230 Square from our space little light so so 636 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:35,450 the way that time squares kind of shaped 637 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:37,730 oh my mouse would be like landing strip 638 00:33:44,670 --> 00:33:42,130 to send burger or how about Los Vegas oh 639 00:33:47,170 --> 00:33:44,680 my god 640 00:33:49,540 --> 00:33:47,180 but you know there are a lot of places 641 00:33:54,550 --> 00:33:49,550 that I've flown over you see nothing 642 00:33:57,220 --> 00:33:54,560 maybe you know five houses lit up down 643 00:34:00,580 --> 00:33:57,230 there you know but yeah there's all 644 00:34:04,860 --> 00:34:00,590 kinds of weird phenomena that that goes 645 00:34:07,570 --> 00:34:04,870 on around the planet that cannot be 646 00:34:10,750 --> 00:34:07,580 explained there was one place that I 647 00:34:13,930 --> 00:34:10,760 visited many a years ago called 648 00:34:15,700 --> 00:34:13,940 Brown Mountain which is down in what 649 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:15,710 felt like yeah 650 00:34:24,850 --> 00:34:19,010 Brown Mountain lights these things come 651 00:34:28,389 --> 00:34:24,860 up from the the valley and drift across 652 00:34:30,940 --> 00:34:28,399 the the sky now what most people don't 653 00:34:32,620 --> 00:34:30,950 realize is that there is a very strong 654 00:34:35,830 --> 00:34:32,630 deposit of Chris 655 00:34:41,410 --> 00:34:35,840 in the mountains and a lot of times 656 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:41,420 where there is metal deposits like gold 657 00:34:48,220 --> 00:34:43,970 and silver and crystals these things 658 00:34:50,730 --> 00:34:48,230 seem to to show up in abundance I don't 659 00:34:55,150 --> 00:34:50,740 know whether they use the the energy 660 00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:55,160 from the the crystals to transport 661 00:35:01,660 --> 00:34:58,010 themselves or whether it's it's a how 662 00:35:05,650 --> 00:35:01,670 it's related but there are these ghost 663 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:05,660 lights that have been seen quite 664 00:35:12,670 --> 00:35:08,450 frequently Brown Mountain lights there's 665 00:35:15,970 --> 00:35:12,680 some Marfa lights in Texas and probably 666 00:35:19,390 --> 00:35:15,980 there's another one in Oklahoma they 667 00:35:21,070 --> 00:35:19,400 called the spook city light and other 668 00:35:22,510 --> 00:35:21,080 other places too that you don't hear 669 00:35:26,140 --> 00:35:22,520 about it but you know I did some 670 00:35:28,630 --> 00:35:26,150 research on YouTube recently and and 671 00:35:30,580 --> 00:35:28,640 found that other people had there were 672 00:35:33,430 --> 00:35:30,590 other locations where these things have 673 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:33,440 been showing up for for centuries and 674 00:35:37,720 --> 00:35:35,690 they usually try to you know explain it 675 00:35:40,630 --> 00:35:37,730 by saying oh it's it's the reflections 676 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:40,640 of car lights or a train coming down the 677 00:35:46,810 --> 00:35:44,570 track except in a lot of instances the 678 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:46,820 the sightings of these spook lights or 679 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:49,130 ghost lights go back before there were 680 00:35:56,260 --> 00:35:51,650 cars on the road especially in the case 681 00:35:59,490 --> 00:35:56,270 of Brown Mountain where the local 682 00:36:04,270 --> 00:35:59,500 indigenous people the Native Americans 683 00:36:09,430 --> 00:36:04,280 talk about seeing these these globes of 684 00:36:14,020 --> 00:36:09,440 fire or light back many many years ago 685 00:36:17,980 --> 00:36:14,030 you know but but they do seem they do 686 00:36:20,500 --> 00:36:17,990 seem to be under intelligent control and 687 00:36:23,830 --> 00:36:20,510 I say that because when I visited 688 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:23,840 Brown Mountain I spoke to a they 689 00:36:30,340 --> 00:36:27,410 actually for a while I had a watch tower 690 00:36:32,050 --> 00:36:30,350 where people could climb and and and and 691 00:36:34,540 --> 00:36:32,060 look out for these things there there 692 00:36:37,090 --> 00:36:34,550 there's still a marker on the on the 693 00:36:39,340 --> 00:36:37,100 highway put up by the forestry 694 00:36:41,590 --> 00:36:39,350 department you know good location to 695 00:36:46,210 --> 00:36:41,600 watch for the Brown Mountain lights and 696 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:46,220 so forth but several of the witnesses 697 00:36:51,220 --> 00:36:48,770 it told me how they had seen these 698 00:36:54,339 --> 00:36:51,230 objects and as they would approach them 699 00:36:57,309 --> 00:36:54,349 they would disappear but if they turned 700 00:37:00,250 --> 00:36:57,319 around they would be in back of them 701 00:37:05,349 --> 00:37:00,260 almost as if they were playing a you 702 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:05,359 know a cat-and-mouse game so it's it's 703 00:37:12,010 --> 00:37:09,410 very is very strange these these UFOs or 704 00:37:15,819 --> 00:37:12,020 however you define them come in all 705 00:37:22,779 --> 00:37:15,829 shapes and sizes and seem to have all 706 00:37:25,900 --> 00:37:22,789 different programs or agendas in mind 707 00:37:29,770 --> 00:37:25,910 and and people are going oh well I never 708 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:29,780 finished up on the area 51 okay well 709 00:37:35,020 --> 00:37:31,490 there was talking about having this 710 00:37:37,809 --> 00:37:35,030 alien stock but the the guy gave the guy 711 00:37:40,930 --> 00:37:37,819 that was doing that who originally came 712 00:37:43,150 --> 00:37:40,940 up with the idea of Facebook gave up on 713 00:37:46,329 --> 00:37:43,160 the idea because of the logistics and 714 00:37:50,020 --> 00:37:46,339 said he was going to hold his activities 715 00:37:51,970 --> 00:37:50,030 in a bar back in Los Angeles and gave 716 00:37:54,730 --> 00:37:51,980 the impression that everything else had 717 00:37:58,180 --> 00:37:54,740 yes yeah yeah yeah you know have been 718 00:38:00,279 --> 00:37:58,190 cancelled however I spoke several times 719 00:38:03,190 --> 00:38:00,289 within the next couple of last couple of 720 00:38:05,799 --> 00:38:03,200 days to the proprietors out of the 721 00:38:07,890 --> 00:38:05,809 little alien n which is in a couple of 722 00:38:12,430 --> 00:38:07,900 within a couple of miles of the gates of 723 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:12,440 area 51 right now where people have had 724 00:38:16,750 --> 00:38:13,970 these sightings on and off over the 725 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:16,760 years and they said they've got 30 acres 726 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:20,450 put aside for camping they've got a 727 00:38:26,260 --> 00:38:23,450 stage and they're going to have live 728 00:38:28,359 --> 00:38:26,270 music and I guess people maybe even 729 00:38:30,279 --> 00:38:28,369 talking or something and certainly the 730 00:38:31,990 --> 00:38:30,289 bar and the restaurant will be open so 731 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:32,000 to give the impression that the whole 732 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:35,690 thing had been cancelled it's just not 733 00:38:44,609 --> 00:38:38,930 it's just not true now I shouldn't warn 734 00:38:46,930 --> 00:38:44,619 that it is a long trek from Las Vegas 735 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:46,940 the glittering lights of the Las Vegas 736 00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:53,450 Strip to the little alien in I once made 737 00:38:59,440 --> 00:38:56,930 the journey it's about 90 miles and 738 00:39:00,010 --> 00:38:59,450 people had warned me make sure you have 739 00:39:02,620 --> 00:39:00,020 God 740 00:39:06,250 --> 00:39:02,630 full tank of gas because there isn't 741 00:39:10,390 --> 00:39:06,260 another place to fill up for 60 miles 742 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:10,400 well well I I had rented I had rented a 743 00:39:15,940 --> 00:39:13,970 Mustang convertible I had two very 744 00:39:18,130 --> 00:39:15,950 attractive young ladies in the car who 745 00:39:20,050 --> 00:39:18,140 insisted on playing the music large loud 746 00:39:23,770 --> 00:39:20,060 and dancing around in the backseat while 747 00:39:27,700 --> 00:39:23,780 I drove and and somehow I guess I forgot 748 00:39:29,740 --> 00:39:27,710 to fill up the gas tank and somewhere 749 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:29,750 out on the extraterrestrial highway 750 00:39:36,310 --> 00:39:32,530 which was not called that then the car 751 00:39:39,940 --> 00:39:36,320 sputtered and spit and stalled and came 752 00:39:46,380 --> 00:39:39,950 to a stop well the temperature with the 753 00:39:48,730 --> 00:39:46,390 hood down is at least a hundred degrees 754 00:39:51,310 --> 00:39:48,740 the middle of the desert there is no 755 00:39:53,410 --> 00:39:51,320 shade and there's nobody even passing on 756 00:39:56,020 --> 00:39:53,420 the highway now I could have easily 757 00:39:58,180 --> 00:39:56,030 turned into a marshmallow if it hadn't 758 00:40:02,970 --> 00:39:58,190 been for these two very attractive young 759 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:02,980 ladies who managed to stop a gentleman 760 00:40:09,910 --> 00:40:06,850 naturally in a car 761 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:09,920 naturally who was pulling a motor boat 762 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:12,770 motor boat and he managed to siphon out 763 00:40:18,430 --> 00:40:15,530 some gas from the boat to put into our 764 00:40:21,300 --> 00:40:18,440 car to get us going again much to the 765 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:21,310 chagrin of his wife who I guess was 766 00:40:25,450 --> 00:40:24,050 anxious to get to Lake Powell or 767 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:25,460 wherever they were going I don't know 768 00:40:29,380 --> 00:40:27,770 where your motorboat out in the middle 769 00:40:33,220 --> 00:40:29,390 of the desert but I guess they were on 770 00:40:35,500 --> 00:40:33,230 their way to Colorado or somewhere and 771 00:40:38,010 --> 00:40:35,510 and so we got started again and we 772 00:40:40,300 --> 00:40:38,020 proceeded to the little layer alien in 773 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:40,310 they have some nice rooms there but 774 00:40:44,020 --> 00:40:42,170 unfortunately they only have about 11 of 775 00:40:46,930 --> 00:40:44,030 them so they're not gonna put you up for 776 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:46,940 the night if you're going out there for 777 00:40:52,930 --> 00:40:51,410 the alien stock but it's you know start 778 00:40:55,300 --> 00:40:52,940 out if you're going out there and I'm 779 00:40:57,070 --> 00:40:55,310 sure people have made a plane 780 00:41:00,430 --> 00:40:57,080 reservations at all they're do be 781 00:41:02,620 --> 00:41:00,440 informed that it's going on and just 782 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:02,630 take it easy and don't storm the the 783 00:41:09,580 --> 00:41:06,770 gate because the the security there will 784 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:09,590 make it miserable for you and then 785 00:41:13,210 --> 00:41:10,970 they'll turn you over to the local 786 00:41:13,989 --> 00:41:13,220 sheriff and you'll hat now this is a 787 00:41:16,839 --> 00:41:13,999 scam 788 00:41:18,999 --> 00:41:16,849 scarlet if there ever was one they 789 00:41:21,339 --> 00:41:19,009 charge you $600 before you get out of 790 00:41:24,699 --> 00:41:21,349 town that's defined for crossing over 791 00:41:26,799 --> 00:41:24,709 the barrier I mean that that sounds like 792 00:41:28,779 --> 00:41:26,809 something you see on TV in Mayberry or 793 00:41:30,429 --> 00:41:28,789 something you know where you know where 794 00:41:32,649 --> 00:41:30,439 you don't even go before the judge and 795 00:41:34,749 --> 00:41:32,659 just pay the fine and then you leave you 796 00:41:36,219 --> 00:41:34,759 know like a speed trap speed trap side 797 00:41:38,499 --> 00:41:36,229 they used to have in the old days and 798 00:41:42,579 --> 00:41:38,509 then they probably they probably still 799 00:41:46,359 --> 00:41:42,589 do now over the years years because I've 800 00:41:48,219 --> 00:41:46,369 been at this of all paranal things that 801 00:41:51,099 --> 00:41:48,229 you you've encountered or heard about 802 00:41:52,209 --> 00:41:51,109 what was the one that shocked you 803 00:41:56,229 --> 00:41:52,219 through the most to come to the 804 00:41:57,669 --> 00:41:56,239 realization Eve it's true true oh geez 805 00:42:01,449 --> 00:41:57,679 well you know I hadn't even thought 806 00:42:04,689 --> 00:42:01,459 about that shocked me the most well you 807 00:42:08,109 --> 00:42:04,699 know Sammy I'm not easily shocked that 808 00:42:11,769 --> 00:42:08,119 that's probably one of the the problems 809 00:42:14,799 --> 00:42:11,779 and I I've seen and heard 810 00:42:17,019 --> 00:42:14,809 I guess just about everything you know I 811 00:42:20,139 --> 00:42:17,029 I did a book we've got about three 812 00:42:22,029 --> 00:42:20,149 hundred nine titles if any of your 813 00:42:24,939 --> 00:42:22,039 listeners are interested in pursuing 814 00:42:27,509 --> 00:42:24,949 this further they can know we just go to 815 00:42:30,939 --> 00:42:27,519 Amazon and type in my name Timothy 816 00:42:35,949 --> 00:42:30,949 Beckley BC que le Y or or send me an 817 00:42:39,189 --> 00:42:35,959 email at m ru fo8 at hotmail we did a 818 00:42:42,419 --> 00:42:39,199 book we try to do two or three new books 819 00:42:45,939 --> 00:42:42,429 every month even though I'm seven 820 00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:45,949 semi-retired we did a book recently 821 00:42:52,599 --> 00:42:49,729 called screwed by the aliens now it has 822 00:42:54,639 --> 00:42:52,609 a double meaning it is actual cases 823 00:43:00,159 --> 00:42:54,649 where people claim they were abducted 824 00:43:03,159 --> 00:43:00,169 and molested and and and forced into 825 00:43:05,019 --> 00:43:03,169 having their sex with these beings you 826 00:43:06,999 --> 00:43:05,029 know even going back to the Bible it 827 00:43:10,449 --> 00:43:07,009 talks about how the Giants came in took 828 00:43:12,339 --> 00:43:10,459 the daughters the daughters of men 829 00:43:14,799 --> 00:43:12,349 because they were fair and so forth in 830 00:43:16,119 --> 00:43:14,809 and and so on so this is something 831 00:43:20,739 --> 00:43:16,129 that's been going on for a long long 832 00:43:23,439 --> 00:43:20,749 time in the in occultism we would call 833 00:43:25,770 --> 00:43:23,449 this the phenomena of like tsukuba sand 834 00:43:29,450 --> 00:43:25,780 in Incubus and 835 00:43:31,500 --> 00:43:29,460 it's it's a very negative aspect 836 00:43:33,240 --> 00:43:31,510 although some people claim that they've 837 00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:33,250 had sex with aliens and they look like 838 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:35,650 angels and they and they were pretty 839 00:43:41,460 --> 00:43:37,810 happy about it but you know I mean it to 840 00:43:43,740 --> 00:43:41,470 each their own I I suppose anyway this 841 00:43:46,050 --> 00:43:43,750 is a very negative s and and I thought 842 00:43:48,420 --> 00:43:46,060 well you know these people are gonna you 843 00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:48,430 know they're fantasizing and they're a 844 00:43:56,850 --> 00:43:53,050 little bit on unhinged or or don't have 845 00:43:59,130 --> 00:43:56,860 a man to call their other their own but 846 00:44:02,730 --> 00:43:59,140 you know the more I investigate it I 847 00:44:04,830 --> 00:44:02,740 mean these people seem to be a very not 848 00:44:11,730 --> 00:44:04,840 all of them necessarily but they all 849 00:44:13,740 --> 00:44:11,740 seem to be fairly stable and reporting 850 00:44:15,780 --> 00:44:13,750 what they had honestly believed was 851 00:44:17,970 --> 00:44:15,790 happening that to them of course 852 00:44:21,780 --> 00:44:17,980 probably the most famous case would be 853 00:44:24,870 --> 00:44:21,790 of a Whitley Schreiber who describes in 854 00:44:27,900 --> 00:44:24,880 communion how he was probed by the 855 00:44:30,900 --> 00:44:27,910 aliens I mean that's become kind of the 856 00:44:33,570 --> 00:44:30,910 standard a joke even on the on the 857 00:44:37,670 --> 00:44:33,580 simpsons so that I thought I would say 858 00:44:41,790 --> 00:44:37,680 it is to me the most perplexing a puzzle 859 00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:41,800 as far as the the occult and the 860 00:44:46,950 --> 00:44:44,050 supernatural goes and certainly a 861 00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:46,960 frightening aspect of this but then on 862 00:44:51,330 --> 00:44:48,850 the other hand you got the the good guys 863 00:44:53,490 --> 00:44:51,340 that are coming here we did a another 864 00:44:56,790 --> 00:44:53,500 book just came out about a month ago 865 00:44:59,250 --> 00:44:56,800 called the space the space brothers 866 00:45:01,650 --> 00:44:59,260 speak transmissions from the solar 867 00:45:03,870 --> 00:45:01,660 council and it's about the ashtar 868 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:03,880 command and these are supposed to be 869 00:45:12,380 --> 00:45:07,810 these mighty space of brothers who were 870 00:45:14,940 --> 00:45:12,390 here looking to help the the spiritual 871 00:45:16,830 --> 00:45:14,950 uplifting of the planet Earth and 872 00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:16,840 keeping an eye on us to make sure that 873 00:45:24,030 --> 00:45:20,890 we don't just destroy ourselves and we 874 00:45:26,130 --> 00:45:24,040 had recently on exploring the bizarre a 875 00:45:29,070 --> 00:45:26,140 very interesting fellow who claims that 876 00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:29,080 he's met Ashtar another member so the a 877 00:45:33,420 --> 00:45:31,570 structure man Mark Brinkerhoff who lives 878 00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:33,430 by the way near Central Park in New York 879 00:45:38,100 --> 00:45:35,770 City and and this fellow you should have 880 00:45:39,359 --> 00:45:38,110 him on your show sometime is a UFO 881 00:45:45,359 --> 00:45:39,369 repeater 882 00:45:47,940 --> 00:45:45,369 the capability to go out either day or 883 00:45:51,749 --> 00:45:47,950 night and with this camera or video and 884 00:45:54,599 --> 00:45:51,759 take photos of the sky and when the you 885 00:45:58,140 --> 00:45:54,609 you look at the pictures a digital now I 886 00:46:00,569 --> 00:45:58,150 guess are the videos strange things 887 00:46:03,390 --> 00:46:00,579 appear and and sometimes they actually 888 00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:03,400 are a mark is actually able to call down 889 00:46:08,069 --> 00:46:06,130 these crap he goes through his window I 890 00:46:10,829 --> 00:46:08,079 mean I've seen the whole series of 891 00:46:14,519 --> 00:46:10,839 photographs we reprinted them in the UFO 892 00:46:18,799 --> 00:46:14,529 of repeaters the chamber doesn't lie of 893 00:46:20,849 --> 00:46:18,809 these objects and they're not airplanes 894 00:46:23,279 --> 00:46:20,859 some people say oh they're party 895 00:46:24,839 --> 00:46:23,289 balloons but at the neighborhood he 896 00:46:26,819 --> 00:46:24,849 lives in must have more parties than 897 00:46:29,700 --> 00:46:26,829 anybody else if these are party of 898 00:46:32,460 --> 00:46:29,710 balloons but he's even had photographs 899 00:46:34,049 --> 00:46:32,470 if you blow up the object you'll see a 900 00:46:35,940 --> 00:46:34,059 port home with the shadow of a being 901 00:46:39,569 --> 00:46:35,950 inside you this is something that's 902 00:46:41,339 --> 00:46:39,579 followed him around all his his life so 903 00:46:44,099 --> 00:46:41,349 now I can't tell you whether he's 904 00:46:45,900 --> 00:46:44,109 actually been you know in touch with the 905 00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:45,910 people from other planets and he really 906 00:46:51,749 --> 00:46:48,970 knows a star and all I try to keep a 907 00:46:53,999 --> 00:46:51,759 neutral attitude on all of this salmon 908 00:46:59,039 --> 00:46:54,009 you know I don't try to get overwhelmed 909 00:47:01,589 --> 00:46:59,049 by it I have a social life and the 910 00:47:04,710 --> 00:47:01,599 things that I do and I try not to be 911 00:47:07,229 --> 00:47:04,720 overly consumed there by it but I find 912 00:47:09,930 --> 00:47:07,239 it both fascinating and and to some 913 00:47:12,779 --> 00:47:09,940 degree entertaining I mean some of these 914 00:47:13,289 --> 00:47:12,789 shows now on TV like on the Travel 915 00:47:16,319 --> 00:47:13,299 Channel 916 00:47:18,329 --> 00:47:16,329 they're fantastic there's a program on 917 00:47:20,729 --> 00:47:18,339 there called the contact where these 918 00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:20,739 people travel all over the world and it 919 00:47:26,220 --> 00:47:23,650 and investigate these things firsthand 920 00:47:28,049 --> 00:47:26,230 and find out a lot of things that the 921 00:47:29,849 --> 00:47:28,059 independent researchers would not be 922 00:47:33,779 --> 00:47:29,859 able to find out because they don't have 923 00:47:37,589 --> 00:47:33,789 the backing of a big cable station and 924 00:47:41,099 --> 00:47:37,599 are not financially able to do it I mean 925 00:47:42,690 --> 00:47:41,109 to be a serious researcher like III made 926 00:47:46,140 --> 00:47:42,700 a lot of money over the years publishing 927 00:47:48,359 --> 00:47:46,150 books and articles and things but I 928 00:47:50,370 --> 00:47:48,369 pumped a lot of it back in and in 929 00:47:52,890 --> 00:47:50,380 traveling and going around and in 930 00:47:54,269 --> 00:47:52,900 studying this 931 00:47:58,079 --> 00:47:54,279 and so that's why you have me on your 932 00:48:02,690 --> 00:47:58,089 show now follows that you've encountered 933 00:48:08,039 --> 00:48:05,640 lost job that would repeat that of all 934 00:48:09,599 --> 00:48:08,049 except enough this post in the 935 00:48:11,309 --> 00:48:09,609 paranormal community what's one thing 936 00:48:14,339 --> 00:48:11,319 thing you insistently don't believe in 937 00:48:18,180 --> 00:48:14,349 leaving oh my goodness what don't I 938 00:48:24,959 --> 00:48:18,190 believe in billy meier i would agree on 939 00:48:27,779 --> 00:48:24,969 that his his photos are so ensuring yeah 940 00:48:30,599 --> 00:48:27,789 yeah yeah yeah but but not only that 941 00:48:34,019 --> 00:48:30,609 I'll go along with almost anything 942 00:48:37,499 --> 00:48:34,029 but not for people who turn this into a 943 00:48:39,029 --> 00:48:37,509 cult a cult of personality because this 944 00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:39,039 has nothing to do with the cult of 945 00:48:43,259 --> 00:48:41,410 personality when you tell me that the 946 00:48:46,529 --> 00:48:43,269 space people are talking to me and they 947 00:48:51,380 --> 00:48:46,539 don't talk to anybody else it's a bunch 948 00:48:56,789 --> 00:48:51,390 of hooey yeah that's all it is it's self 949 00:48:57,719 --> 00:48:56,799 grand iseman I'm using big words so self 950 00:49:00,959 --> 00:48:57,729 self 951 00:49:07,380 --> 00:49:00,969 grand iseman and and so I don't go along 952 00:49:13,309 --> 00:49:07,390 with with that also two exorcisms yeah I 953 00:49:17,309 --> 00:49:13,319 don't believe and Satan is a Christian 954 00:49:20,430 --> 00:49:17,319 invention so yes there are negative 955 00:49:23,459 --> 00:49:20,440 spirits out there maybe some people have 956 00:49:26,069 --> 00:49:23,469 been possessed by them but you're not 957 00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:26,079 going to get rid of them with a bottle 958 00:49:33,269 --> 00:49:29,650 of holy water or holding a cross up to 959 00:49:40,979 --> 00:49:33,279 them in fact my friend Paul you know who 960 00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:40,989 is the host of a radio show podcast he 961 00:49:48,029 --> 00:49:45,210 said he has gotten more positive 962 00:49:50,430 --> 00:49:48,039 response from holding guys or non 963 00:49:55,859 --> 00:49:50,440 positive response I suppose you could 964 00:49:58,219 --> 00:49:55,869 say by telling jokes that he then you 965 00:50:01,049 --> 00:49:58,229 can do by holding up a crosser or 966 00:50:04,580 --> 00:50:01,059 spattering the the person who supposedly 967 00:50:08,150 --> 00:50:04,590 possessed with the holy water 968 00:50:10,070 --> 00:50:08,160 that's you funny hey yeah yeah I feel 969 00:50:15,410 --> 00:50:10,080 like the church army is very much a 970 00:50:17,660 --> 00:50:15,420 shout when it well not that I don't 971 00:50:19,610 --> 00:50:17,670 believe in the exorcisms that thinks 972 00:50:24,140 --> 00:50:19,620 that things attention apostle bill Billy 973 00:50:25,340 --> 00:50:24,150 Mandela 510 10 got believer in I also 974 00:50:31,460 --> 00:50:25,350 you know don't you know wonder one thing 975 00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:31,470 I had a big believer in Bigfoot as well 976 00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:34,290 I I'm sure there's one in living in your 977 00:50:41,660 --> 00:50:37,770 apartment building and just like Bigfoot 978 00:50:45,050 --> 00:50:41,670 I just the lies well a lot of probably 979 00:50:49,670 --> 00:50:45,060 believing for it yeah well you know if a 980 00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:49,680 Bigfoot it seems to be and it well yes 981 00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:51,410 well now you know why he's elusive 982 00:50:57,860 --> 00:50:55,650 because he's not a physical being I mean 983 00:50:59,570 --> 00:50:57,870 these guys were out there hunting I say 984 00:51:03,140 --> 00:50:59,580 guys because most of them are guys but 985 00:51:06,770 --> 00:51:03,150 there are some gals that also have an 986 00:51:08,170 --> 00:51:06,780 interest in in big Bigfoot we've had a 987 00:51:12,350 --> 00:51:08,180 couple of them on our show a 988 00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:12,360 cryptozoology is very popular today I I 989 00:51:18,490 --> 00:51:15,170 think there's more interest in 990 00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:18,500 cryptozoology maybe that in UFOs even 991 00:51:23,390 --> 00:51:20,850 because a Bigfoot has been seen all over 992 00:51:25,610 --> 00:51:23,400 but people are looking for 993 00:51:30,140 --> 00:51:25,620 flesh-and-blood you know creatures and 994 00:51:32,990 --> 00:51:30,150 and feces and and animals that have been 995 00:51:35,420 --> 00:51:33,000 eaten in half and and it doesn't happen 996 00:51:38,420 --> 00:51:35,430 because these things seem to be you know 997 00:51:42,470 --> 00:51:38,430 supernatural in origin they come and go 998 00:51:46,100 --> 00:51:42,480 through the portals or time warps or 999 00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:46,110 something and a lot of times people see 1000 00:51:53,650 --> 00:51:50,130 UFOs and and their Bigfoot sighting it 1001 00:51:59,060 --> 00:51:53,660 all it all seems to happen in the same 1002 00:52:01,730 --> 00:51:59,070 area we call them hotspots or window 1003 00:52:04,970 --> 00:52:01,740 areas in fact we did a book notice how 1004 00:52:06,980 --> 00:52:04,980 everything leads into a plug we did a we 1005 00:52:08,330 --> 00:52:06,990 did a well if you had your skateboard 1006 00:52:11,710 --> 00:52:08,340 company you'd be doing the same thing 1007 00:52:15,890 --> 00:52:11,720 yeah we did it we did a book called the 1008 00:52:18,350 --> 00:52:15,900 alien alien strongholds on earth where 1009 00:52:18,530 --> 00:52:18,360 places were in fact I tell people you 1010 00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:18,540 know 1011 00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:20,970 have to go out to area 51 and get shot 1012 00:52:26,020 --> 00:52:22,770 and hang out in the desert there are 1013 00:52:30,980 --> 00:52:26,030 places you can go that are a lot more 1014 00:52:35,240 --> 00:52:30,990 pleasant like Sedona Arizona for example 1015 00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:35,250 and or Pine Bush in New York and why 1016 00:52:39,740 --> 00:52:37,290 don't we skateboard up there next year 1017 00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:39,750 with and their festival and sir 1018 00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:42,690 what will hang out and near the idea of 1019 00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:45,690 the graveyard where they have a lot of 1020 00:52:53,330 --> 00:52:48,450 the the sightings in fact there's a 1021 00:52:55,090 --> 00:52:53,340 fellow who is a scientist Bruce Cornett 1022 00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:55,100 who comes on our show from time to time 1023 00:53:00,170 --> 00:52:57,330 who's had sightings there and he just 1024 00:53:02,750 --> 00:53:00,180 did a big volume scientifically they're 1025 00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:02,760 trying to ascertain the movements of 1026 00:53:07,580 --> 00:53:04,410 these objects and so forth and then 1027 00:53:10,700 --> 00:53:07,590 there's a Linda Zimmerman who's done 1028 00:53:12,710 --> 00:53:10,710 several books not only on zombies has 1029 00:53:17,030 --> 00:53:12,720 nothing to do with their interest in the 1030 00:53:21,290 --> 00:53:17,040 triangular-shaped UFOs but as she's kept 1031 00:53:23,930 --> 00:53:21,300 abreast of all these reports of a 1032 00:53:25,910 --> 00:53:23,940 boomerang has shaped the craft that have 1033 00:53:29,510 --> 00:53:25,920 been seen up and down the the Hudson 1034 00:53:31,700 --> 00:53:29,520 Valley for decades I mean actually I 1035 00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:31,710 think the first report she has was like 1036 00:53:38,810 --> 00:53:35,850 from 1896 though so there you have it 1037 00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:38,820 scarlet I mean that's my life in a in a 1038 00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:44,610 nutshell everybody know where they can 1039 00:53:53,210 --> 00:53:48,330 get your books and where they can well 1040 00:53:56,630 --> 00:53:53,220 if you come knock on my door actually of 1041 00:53:59,420 --> 00:53:56,640 course does anybody order I I used to 1042 00:54:01,910 --> 00:53:59,430 get sacks of mail no I know I get one 1043 00:54:05,780 --> 00:54:01,920 payment from Amazon you know so if you 1044 00:54:08,930 --> 00:54:05,790 go to Amazon and just type in Tim 1045 00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:08,940 Buckley or Timothy Beckley you'll find 1046 00:54:13,430 --> 00:54:11,130 more books than you could shake up don't 1047 00:54:15,350 --> 00:54:13,440 forget my youtube channel because I'm 1048 00:54:17,570 --> 00:54:15,360 also a cartoon character 1049 00:54:20,660 --> 00:54:17,580 now how many ufologists can you claim 1050 00:54:25,100 --> 00:54:20,670 they're a cartoon character the YouTube 1051 00:54:28,580 --> 00:54:25,110 channel is called the mr. UFOs secret 1052 00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:28,590 files and and that's where we archive 1053 00:54:33,890 --> 00:54:32,010 our exploring the bizarre 1054 00:54:38,510 --> 00:54:33,900 shows that we do every Thursday night on 1055 00:54:40,700 --> 00:54:38,520 K cor radio it's also on stitcher and 1056 00:54:44,230 --> 00:54:40,710 iTunes which I don't even know how to 1057 00:54:47,720 --> 00:54:44,240 find in something called Google Play and 1058 00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:47,730 SoundCloud and anybody who wants to 1059 00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:51,210 conceal the show and you'll have a good 1060 00:54:59,570 --> 00:54:54,530 time on that because we try to keep it a 1061 00:55:01,520 --> 00:54:59,580 light entertaining light but also since 1062 00:55:04,250 --> 00:55:01,530 I've been doing this for so many years I 1063 00:55:07,730 --> 00:55:04,260 know how to pull the best information 1064 00:55:09,230 --> 00:55:07,740 out of people we don't spend it gotta 1065 00:55:11,170 --> 00:55:09,240 heard somebody talking the other night 1066 00:55:14,660 --> 00:55:11,180 who supposed to be a big talk show host 1067 00:55:16,550 --> 00:55:14,670 it was three hours of him talking and I 1068 00:55:18,770 --> 00:55:16,560 think the guest was on for 20 minutes 1069 00:55:20,990 --> 00:55:18,780 there are some people host that I cringe 1070 00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:21,000 when they call because you know if you 1071 00:55:25,850 --> 00:55:23,370 had me on for a guest I should be 1072 00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:25,860 talking yeah yeah 1073 00:55:32,780 --> 00:55:29,010 just like you let me do ya anyway anyway 1074 00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:32,790 scarlet a pleasure I always enjoy having 1075 00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:36,330 you on my program even when you have 1076 00:56:00,200 --> 00:55:37,770 people in your apartment who are high on 1077 00:56:02,150 --> 00:56:00,210 LSD it wasn't just LSU it was like like 1078 00:56:03,650 --> 00:56:02,160 to quote the movie into the Greek 1079 00:56:06,230 --> 00:56:03,660 three-c-- the world had some a Jeffrey 1080 00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:06,240 and then once he came down which is 1081 00:56:09,830 --> 00:56:08,010 around the time time I had so he decided 1082 00:56:11,990 --> 00:56:09,840 to that you throw Hardy and there were 1083 00:56:15,230 --> 00:56:12,000 like girls over here here that hang up 1084 00:56:18,170 --> 00:56:15,240 Jake pawpaw you're not familiar with who 1085 00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:18,180 that is is considered lucky yeah a very 1086 00:56:24,110 --> 00:56:21,930 stressful well oh it's always it's 1087 00:56:26,660 --> 00:56:24,120 always a pleasure to hang with you even 1088 00:56:29,450 --> 00:56:26,670 if it's only on the on the air sometimes 1089 00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:29,460 we have some time we will have to be in 1090 00:56:40,730 --> 00:56:39,080 never ride bikes in the park yeah you're 1091 00:56:43,100 --> 00:56:40,740 much more active that I am because 1092 00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:43,110 you're much younger than I am but anyway 1093 00:56:46,010 --> 00:56:45,330 that's that's what it is and God bless 1094 00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:46,020 you 1095 00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:51,650 some money in the mail all right okay 1096 00:56:55,700 --> 00:56:54,050 all right